Jonathan, with the assumption that you express in your comment, it is obvious you have not read much of our research have you?
On a side note, being as you express your assumption regarding our mentality and being very trusting, perhaps you could share YOUR own personal research with us, or even jump on a Zoom video chat and compare YOUR research with ours, and let's see if you still hold the same assumption you express in your comment about us both?
As for comparing that to your research, well, you'd have to say what research you are referring to. Specifically, how did you establish that these Jersey widows really did lose their husbands for real on 9/11 -- as opposed to being crisis actresses, which is what I strongly suspect.
Regarding the suspect plane calls, all of a sudden replaces the people who died in the towers on 9/11?
Are you retarded?
Tell me, what research have you done to to prove the wives of over 600 people who died in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald are crises actresses?
Fuck, how disingenuous can you get?
Most people with a working brain, sees through the bullshit "plane phone call narratives", yet you want to conflate that with people who died in the towers?
The 9/11 Plane & No Plane debate settled
Most probably the best distraction of WHAT happened on September 11, 2001
Can you not differentiate between the psyop of the planes vs the destruction at the WTC?
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the buildings and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…
Perhaps you could have a Zoom chat, regarding your articles? While compelling that Ong is a black lady in the photo, and missing in other lists, and perhaps inserted after the fact, is there any chance of reaching out and speaking to Harry Ong, Betty's brother, to see if you could obtain any further information, or verify the information you have obtained? I have seen plenty of photographs of a younger Betty? So based on your research scope you concluded that Betty doesn't exist? Interesting! Have you made any further attempts to find or speak to anyone who knew Betty, who may help you verify your information?
I contacted GWSF regarding Ong and the anomalous photo of her (not her) in the 1973 fall end of year school book. They were not very helpful when I asked why it wasn't Betty. Where do I contact you to send the replies I had from them? Plus, I will write and article about your findings, obviously directing people your article.
It is obvious you haven't read much of my personal research regarding the victims? Or 9/11 Revisionist's research either.? Mine is all posted at my Substack. I am just wondering how many victims family members you have contacted or interviewed, or done extensive research into. And I YOU personally researching, not third hand, and where I might be able to read it? Perhaps you could jump on a Zoom video chat with me and Norman and discuss YOUR research?
"It is obvious you haven't read much of my personal research regarding the victims?"
Why is that _obvious_??? You are replying to a comment that consists of a single sentence: "Everything should be open to question in this game." Frankly, that seems like a perfectly sensible thing to say, but regardless, how does one infer from that whether the poster ever read _your_ personal research or not?
But anyway, specifically, how did you (and Norman) ever establish factually that these Jersey widows, like Patricia Casazza and the other one, this Kristen Breitweiser, really are what they represent themselves as? Or are they just (as I obviously suspect) crisis actresses?
If you (or Norman) really have researched this, where is that research?
Regarding the suspect plane calls, all of a sudden replaces the people who died in the towers on 9/11?
Are you retarded?
Tell me, what research have you done to to prove the wives of over 600 people who died in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald are crises actresses?
Fuck, how disingenuous can you get?
Most people with a working brain, sees through the bullshit "plane phone call narratives", yet you want to conflate that with people who died in the towers?
The 9/11 Plane & No Plane debate settled
Most probably the best distraction of WHAT happened on September 11, 2001
Can you not differentiate between the psyop of the planes vs the destruction at the WTC?
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the buildings and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…
Well, I obviously don't think so, but I'm not objective on the question! Seriously, don't you realize that anybody who wasn't born yesterday can see that you're getting this rude because you don't really have an argument?
"Tell me, what research have you done to to prove the wives of over 600 people who died in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald are crises actresses?"
Well, if I was going to spend nearly 5 hours interviewing any one of these people, I would make some effort to see if the person's story checks out.
You can't use the proposition under dispute to prove that very proposition! The proposition under dispute is whether these people really did lose their husbands (or whatever other loved ones) on 9/11. You cannot construct an argument for that proposition by assuming the point under dispute!
In terms of these Jersey widows, like this Patricia Casazza, or Kristen Breitweiser, are there any photos of these women with their late husbands? (That are not obvious photoshops obviously!)
Did you ever look into these basic questions?
And besides that, is there any reason to believe anything that any of these people say? Really, is there?
Because it is obvious you haven't read my research by you making the assumption saying " You guys seem to have a very trusting mentality". If you had read any of my research or Norman's, you would not make such a ludicrous comment.
The offer is still open to jump on a Zoom video call and discuss YOUR research and articles? Yes or No?
Because if you had read any of my 160 research articles you would not have made acomment saying I have a "trusting mentality". That is why it is obvious to me you had not read my research. Does that makes sense for you?
Look Mark, all I said was everything should be open to question. Do I need to do extensive research to say that? I did not make any conclusion about the issue. I do not purport to be a 9.11 researcher but did report on some things in 2 posts. I also have personal contact with families of UA 93, persons who worked on cutting checks for victim families with the legal team that ran this, and my own family members who escaped WTC. I have seen hundreds of hours of documentaries, read all of revisionists posts and have Judy's book. Now try to be polite to people basically on your side.
With regards to who you know, or have contact to that have direct lines to the events that day, I cannot vet....
Yet, we are in agreement, that NO thermal or kinetic mechanism was the final straw in having the Twins disintegrate on a molecular level.... Never mind the anomalous evidence pertaining to the destruction to and around the WTC...
Never mind the hoodwink at Shanksville and the PentaCon...
BUT, you do have to respect the 15+ years Mark has put into all plane related aspects of 9/11....
After 24 years, on the cusp of the 25 year anniversary, when most would expect a dissemination of truth to hit the mainstream, we now are staring into the psyop of the 1st year of the Charlie Kirk assassination and all the same perception management practices being employed...
FFS - 9/11 IS THE LITMUS TEST....
If people can use 24 years of narrative and disinfo and use it as a learning exercise, then they would more easily understand the covid psyop, then the virus psyop and so many other psyops...
I'd love to discuss this with you, on or off the record...
She is quite likable, though you had to be very patient with some of her incomplete beliefs about how the world works:
-she thinks that politicians can be cajoled to do good,
-that Trump did some good and can do more,
-that there is a R vs L political system,
-that voting can change things,
-she does not get that politicians are puppets and part of secret societies.
-she knows that there was no plane at Shanksville but does not consider Beamer and gang could have been actors and put into "witness protection", or likely to still be alive like Barbara Olson.
-she believes in Covid as a communicable illness (virus) and to take medication for it.
☞Is it possible she is part of the system? Who knows but there's that father of the young man who goes on speaking tours and seems to be fake, and many persons I thought were honest about Covid later came out as part of the blob.
Proton Magic, I'd be interested to know Wwhat evidence you have to say Olson is still alive?
Also same with the evidence that Beamer or Company were actors?
My United Airlines flight attendant connection maintains she worked with Cee Cee Lyles and was a real person, and not an actor or vicsim. Do you not think Lyles was unwittingly used and then murdered? Maybe involved in an exercise gone bad?
I had statement analysis done on family members who appeared on Larry King Live, and found Lyles' husband was being truthful.
Alice Hoglan is an unusual case, and she presents all wrong considering she lost her son.
Nothing is straightforward or uniformed with the passengers. I have not seen any evidence any of the hijackers boarded the planes. We have passengers who canceled their reservations, and did not rebook on the flights, yet were named as being on the flights. All very telling. Bingham was not even named in the manifest.
Please consider chatting private with me on Zoom regarding your connections with UA93 families. I would appreciated it.
1. Dying but still being alive is one SOPs of the elite.
2. You can see these links below to see matching biometric comparisons, lack of any pre 2001 info on Lady Booth (the "new wife"), and a claim that voice analysis is the same.
So, Ted Olsen's "new wife" is quite suspicious, neither me or you can prove yes or no, lets just say she must have the same makeup artist as the Challenger Crew.
I don't say yes or no because for that we would need dental xrays or dental contour scans to be 100%, finger prints to be near 100%. DNA testing is a bit of a farce to say the least.
I don't have any more info on UA 93 other than that one of them never reappeared after 9.11 and the family assumes he/she died in the crash in Shanksville, they don't even doubt the crash. We don't know what happened to this person, doesn't mean they are dead.
Patricia mailed me and said she'd love to speak with me again in 2026 and I did share her email with Dr Wood, so maybe a seminar type event with you, Dr Wood, Patricia, Dr Morgan Reynolds, Mark Conlon, Adam Eisenberg and more, might just be on the cards for 2026?
Let's see what we can make happen.
Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and enjoy your new year's celebrations dear sir!
Judy Wood's theory was introduced as "hostile interference" to the analysis of AE911TRUTH.org building experts who concluded controlled demolition was the chief cause for the explosive collapse of both towers. The explosives are obviously witnessed at the corners of the towers timed to mimic free-fall acceleration. The "dustification" was a product of those mini-nuke explosives combined with the presence of nano-thermite that helped disintegrate the massive structures before they collided with the ground. Judy Wood's theory was introduced to confuse the public as to how it happened while deflecting blame from the obvious Israeli "art student" instigators who were resident in the towers in order to wire the explosives. The distraction plan was made obvious when Judy wood never offered to join the AE911Truth group in order to collaborate with the building experts where her theory could have been put to the test. Instead, she wrote a book that only presented her unproven "theory".
You ad hominem attack toward Dr Wood, reeks of intellectual dishonesty, as was exposed in 2011, when Richard Gage was confronted by more than one attendees at various of his Midwest tour presentations.
Vietnam Veteran, Matthew Naus, who arranged Gage's and David Rey Griffin's tours in 2011 - I suggest you listen to his testimony and his interactions with all the deceivers in the 9/11 truth movement.
There are 3 issues most people have when faced with the truth regarding the events of 9/11
1. Problem solving skills
2. Group Think
3. They just can't handle the implications
Were the towers destroyed by a gravity collapse? The evidence says no.
Were the towers destroyed by explosives? The evidence says no.
Were the towers destroyed by thermite? The evidence says no.
Were the towers destroyed by nukes? The evidence says no.
The answers to these questions can easily be found by studying the evidence.
The problem is NOT a shortage of evidence.
The problem is nobody wants to LOOK at the evidence and think for themselves.
Instead, everyone wants to be TOLD WHAT TO THINK by "experts" in the MSM, alternative media, the scientific community, the government, and the "truth" movement, but these "experts" spend the whole time covering up and muddling up the evidence.
A whole industry has been created - A whole "truth" movement, to have people NOT look at the evidence presented TO COURT in 2007, all whilst they are gaslighting good intentioned truth seekers with stories of remote-controlled planes or drones, CGI TV video fakery, bombs, and thermite for a controlled demolition or even buried or mini nukes.
Making sure people NEVER look at the anomalies with the 9/11 orphans, buildings 3, 4, 5, 6 and the Bankers Trust building, because if people do, they will immediately see the problems with the 9/11 truther narratives that are being SOLD to them.
Good intentioned truth seekers are FUNDING the greater cover-up of the truth of what happened on 9/11.
Have a listen and read the 2007 court filings you’re NOT supposed to know about..
If all of this is just too much effort for you to work through, because you're afraid of admitting to yourself that you've been duped, then leave your email address and we can have a face to face discussion of the EVIDENCE, that cannot be explained by any thermal or kinetic mechanism, on September 11, 2001.
Humbling myself to be okay with not knowing everything is one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. There’s nothing worse than being recognized as suffering from Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.
O, but there are facts and then there are PROVABLE lies, misrepresentations of evidence, obfuscation of truth, COINTELPRO agents and COLD HARD FACTS, when investigating all the narratives around 9/11... Suggested reading...
9/11 FACTS that hurt people's feelings
43 FACTS that cannot be explained due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the buildings and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…
There is no quest, just to expose those who are complicit in the further cover-up of the truth.
A whole industry has been created - A whole "truth" movement, to have people NOT look at the evidence presented TO COURT in 2007, all whilst they are gaslighting good intentioned truth seekers with stories of remote-controlled planes or drones, CGI TV video fakery, bombs, and thermite for a controlled demolition or even buried or mini nukes.
Making sure people NEVER look at the anomalies with the 9/11 orphans, buildings 3, 4, 5, 6 and the Bankers Trust building, because if people do, they will immediately see the problems with the 9/11 truther narratives that are being SOLD to them.
Good intentioned truth seekers are FUNDING the greater cover-up of the truth of what happened on 9/11.
Have a listen and read the 2007 court filings you’re NOT supposed to know about..
Mr Saive - why are you lying? You should know full well of Dr Wood's court case against military industrial contractors. https://www.doctorjudywood.com/wp/court-case-qui-tam/ This was compiled and filed YEARS BEFORE the WDTTG book came out. Why would you come on here and be so ill-informed and disingenuous if you really cared to know what actually happened to the WTC towers? Are you so desperate to protect your ego and the knowledge of the tech. that we KNOW was used on that day?
Or has your brain been so programmed or scrambled that you actually believe what you've said to be correct?
It's all so much of a mystery as to why you would make this comment - and almost as mysterious that I am here wasting my time replying to you.
Never forget how much your Government HATES you.
Thank you for your diligence and courage!
Did you ask Patricia if she has any photos of her and her late husband together?
Why would he need to do that?
You guys seem to have a very trusting mentality.
Jonathan, with the assumption that you express in your comment, it is obvious you have not read much of our research have you?
On a side note, being as you express your assumption regarding our mentality and being very trusting, perhaps you could share YOUR own personal research with us, or even jump on a Zoom video chat and compare YOUR research with ours, and let's see if you still hold the same assumption you express in your comment about us both?
"perhaps you could share YOUR own personal research with us"
Well, there was my article about the flight attendant Betty Ong, from nearly 8 years ago, that appeared on the Unz Review: https://www.unz.com/article/revisiting-911-betty-ong-and-the-mystery-of-black-betty/ I later wrote an article about a couple of Japanese banker victims (or vicsims) that you could look at here: https://heresy.is/revusky/discreet-japanese/
As for comparing that to your research, well, you'd have to say what research you are referring to. Specifically, how did you establish that these Jersey widows really did lose their husbands for real on 9/11 -- as opposed to being crisis actresses, which is what I strongly suspect.
You're a bit late to the party, pertaining to Betty Ong and her phone call...
It was covered way before 2018...
Link: https://rumble.com/v5fkv7d-conspiracy-theorista-debunking-rebekah-roth.html
Regarding the suspect plane calls, all of a sudden replaces the people who died in the towers on 9/11?
Are you retarded?
Tell me, what research have you done to to prove the wives of over 600 people who died in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald are crises actresses?
Fuck, how disingenuous can you get?
Most people with a working brain, sees through the bullshit "plane phone call narratives", yet you want to conflate that with people who died in the towers?
The 9/11 Plane & No Plane debate settled
Most probably the best distraction of WHAT happened on September 11, 2001
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-the-plane-no-plane-argument
I'll ask you again... Are YOU retarded?
Can you not differentiate between the psyop of the planes vs the destruction at the WTC?
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the buildings and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/what-exactly-happened-to-all-7-buildings
I'll ask you again, are you retarded?
9/11 FACTS that hurt people's feelings
43 FACTS that cannot be explained due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-facts-that-hurt-peoples-feelings
Here is a 9/11 "crash course" for you. You're welcome
Watch: 9/11 Alchemy - Facing Reality
Rumble Link: https://rumble.com/v42pr22-911-alchemy-facing-reality.html
YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/CrzNeZUp0tU
Perhaps you could have a Zoom chat, regarding your articles? While compelling that Ong is a black lady in the photo, and missing in other lists, and perhaps inserted after the fact, is there any chance of reaching out and speaking to Harry Ong, Betty's brother, to see if you could obtain any further information, or verify the information you have obtained? I have seen plenty of photographs of a younger Betty? So based on your research scope you concluded that Betty doesn't exist? Interesting! Have you made any further attempts to find or speak to anyone who knew Betty, who may help you verify your information?
Jonathan,
I contacted GWSF regarding Ong and the anomalous photo of her (not her) in the 1973 fall end of year school book. They were not very helpful when I asked why it wasn't Betty. Where do I contact you to send the replies I had from them? Plus, I will write and article about your findings, obviously directing people your article.
Everything should be open to question in this game.
It is obvious you haven't read much of my personal research regarding the victims? Or 9/11 Revisionist's research either.? Mine is all posted at my Substack. I am just wondering how many victims family members you have contacted or interviewed, or done extensive research into. And I YOU personally researching, not third hand, and where I might be able to read it? Perhaps you could jump on a Zoom video chat with me and Norman and discuss YOUR research?
"It is obvious you haven't read much of my personal research regarding the victims?"
Why is that _obvious_??? You are replying to a comment that consists of a single sentence: "Everything should be open to question in this game." Frankly, that seems like a perfectly sensible thing to say, but regardless, how does one infer from that whether the poster ever read _your_ personal research or not?
But anyway, specifically, how did you (and Norman) ever establish factually that these Jersey widows, like Patricia Casazza and the other one, this Kristen Breitweiser, really are what they represent themselves as? Or are they just (as I obviously suspect) crisis actresses?
If you (or Norman) really have researched this, where is that research?
I'll just repost this again and maybe, you'll have the balls for a face to face discussion, which I really doubt you have...
You're a bit late to the party, pertaining to Betty Ong and her phone call...
It was covered way before 2018...
Link: https://rumble.com/v5fkv7d-conspiracy-theorista-debunking-rebekah-roth.html
Regarding the suspect plane calls, all of a sudden replaces the people who died in the towers on 9/11?
Are you retarded?
Tell me, what research have you done to to prove the wives of over 600 people who died in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald are crises actresses?
Fuck, how disingenuous can you get?
Most people with a working brain, sees through the bullshit "plane phone call narratives", yet you want to conflate that with people who died in the towers?
The 9/11 Plane & No Plane debate settled
Most probably the best distraction of WHAT happened on September 11, 2001
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-the-plane-no-plane-argument
I'll ask you again... Are YOU retarded?
Can you not differentiate between the psyop of the planes vs the destruction at the WTC?
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the buildings and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/what-exactly-happened-to-all-7-buildings
I'll ask you again, are you retarded?
9/11 FACTS that hurt people's feelings
43 FACTS that cannot be explained due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-facts-that-hurt-peoples-feelings
Here is a 9/11 "crash course" for you. You're welcome
Watch: 9/11 Alchemy - Facing Reality
Rumble Link: https://rumble.com/v42pr22-911-alchemy-facing-reality.html
YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/CrzNeZUp0tU
"Are you retarded?"
Well, I obviously don't think so, but I'm not objective on the question! Seriously, don't you realize that anybody who wasn't born yesterday can see that you're getting this rude because you don't really have an argument?
"Tell me, what research have you done to to prove the wives of over 600 people who died in the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald are crises actresses?"
Well, if I was going to spend nearly 5 hours interviewing any one of these people, I would make some effort to see if the person's story checks out.
Did you do that?
I don't think you did, but regardless, you don't seem to understand some very basic things, i.e. the "beg the question fallacy", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
You can't use the proposition under dispute to prove that very proposition! The proposition under dispute is whether these people really did lose their husbands (or whatever other loved ones) on 9/11. You cannot construct an argument for that proposition by assuming the point under dispute!
In terms of these Jersey widows, like this Patricia Casazza, or Kristen Breitweiser, are there any photos of these women with their late husbands? (That are not obvious photoshops obviously!)
Did you ever look into these basic questions?
And besides that, is there any reason to believe anything that any of these people say? Really, is there?
Jonathan,
Because it is obvious you haven't read my research by you making the assumption saying " You guys seem to have a very trusting mentality". If you had read any of my research or Norman's, you would not make such a ludicrous comment.
The offer is still open to jump on a Zoom video call and discuss YOUR research and articles? Yes or No?
Because if you had read any of my 160 research articles you would not have made acomment saying I have a "trusting mentality". That is why it is obvious to me you had not read my research. Does that makes sense for you?
Look Mark, all I said was everything should be open to question. Do I need to do extensive research to say that? I did not make any conclusion about the issue. I do not purport to be a 9.11 researcher but did report on some things in 2 posts. I also have personal contact with families of UA 93, persons who worked on cutting checks for victim families with the legal team that ran this, and my own family members who escaped WTC. I have seen hundreds of hours of documentaries, read all of revisionists posts and have Judy's book. Now try to be polite to people basically on your side.
@Proton Magic - My comment was meant to Jonathan, not you.... Apologies.
Proton, I appreciate the work you do....
With regards to who you know, or have contact to that have direct lines to the events that day, I cannot vet....
Yet, we are in agreement, that NO thermal or kinetic mechanism was the final straw in having the Twins disintegrate on a molecular level.... Never mind the anomalous evidence pertaining to the destruction to and around the WTC...
Never mind the hoodwink at Shanksville and the PentaCon...
BUT, you do have to respect the 15+ years Mark has put into all plane related aspects of 9/11....
After 24 years, on the cusp of the 25 year anniversary, when most would expect a dissemination of truth to hit the mainstream, we now are staring into the psyop of the 1st year of the Charlie Kirk assassination and all the same perception management practices being employed...
FFS - 9/11 IS THE LITMUS TEST....
If people can use 24 years of narrative and disinfo and use it as a learning exercise, then they would more easily understand the covid psyop, then the virus psyop and so many other psyops...
I'd love to discuss this with you, on or off the record...
Be sure I have never NOT respected the work you do. I've only collated some material for a couple of posts, most fits with you and Judy.
You can DM me anytime and we can share emails if thats better. But some bad experiences have me very phone and camera shy. Keep going!
Great interview with Patricia Norman.
She is quite likable, though you had to be very patient with some of her incomplete beliefs about how the world works:
-she thinks that politicians can be cajoled to do good,
-that Trump did some good and can do more,
-that there is a R vs L political system,
-that voting can change things,
-she does not get that politicians are puppets and part of secret societies.
-she knows that there was no plane at Shanksville but does not consider Beamer and gang could have been actors and put into "witness protection", or likely to still be alive like Barbara Olson.
-she believes in Covid as a communicable illness (virus) and to take medication for it.
☞Is it possible she is part of the system? Who knows but there's that father of the young man who goes on speaking tours and seems to be fake, and many persons I thought were honest about Covid later came out as part of the blob.
Simon Shack is responsible for making the father of the young man seem fake. Shack is a "proven" con-artist, and deceiver.
Proton Magic, I'd be interested to know Wwhat evidence you have to say Olson is still alive?
Also same with the evidence that Beamer or Company were actors?
My United Airlines flight attendant connection maintains she worked with Cee Cee Lyles and was a real person, and not an actor or vicsim. Do you not think Lyles was unwittingly used and then murdered? Maybe involved in an exercise gone bad?
I had statement analysis done on family members who appeared on Larry King Live, and found Lyles' husband was being truthful.
Alice Hoglan is an unusual case, and she presents all wrong considering she lost her son.
Nothing is straightforward or uniformed with the passengers. I have not seen any evidence any of the hijackers boarded the planes. We have passengers who canceled their reservations, and did not rebook on the flights, yet were named as being on the flights. All very telling. Bingham was not even named in the manifest.
Please consider chatting private with me on Zoom regarding your connections with UA93 families. I would appreciated it.
Mark, I do not have absolute proof on Olsen but
1. Dying but still being alive is one SOPs of the elite.
2. You can see these links below to see matching biometric comparisons, lack of any pre 2001 info on Lady Booth (the "new wife"), and a claim that voice analysis is the same.
So, Ted Olsen's "new wife" is quite suspicious, neither me or you can prove yes or no, lets just say she must have the same makeup artist as the Challenger Crew.
https://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/04/is-lady-booth-olsen-wife-of-ted-olsen.html
https://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/07/what-happened-to-flight-77s-passengers.html
I don't say yes or no because for that we would need dental xrays or dental contour scans to be 100%, finger prints to be near 100%. DNA testing is a bit of a farce to say the least.
I don't have any more info on UA 93 other than that one of them never reappeared after 9.11 and the family assumes he/she died in the crash in Shanksville, they don't even doubt the crash. We don't know what happened to this person, doesn't mean they are dead.
A positive development that you managed to have this interview with Patricia. Thanks to both of you.
Thank you for the positive feedback.
Patricia mailed me and said she'd love to speak with me again in 2026 and I did share her email with Dr Wood, so maybe a seminar type event with you, Dr Wood, Patricia, Dr Morgan Reynolds, Mark Conlon, Adam Eisenberg and more, might just be on the cards for 2026?
Let's see what we can make happen.
Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and enjoy your new year's celebrations dear sir!
Thanks - yes, happy to be involved in further discussion. Once again, thanks to Patricia and you for the discussion. She's a great lady.
absolutely fantastic interview....may the families eventually receive the truth and justice they deserve... brilliant work Norman xxx
Utterly heartbreaking 😢
Thank you Patricia and Norman ❤️❤️
DEW
Yeah, DEW by our Military Industrial Complex… the evil of the WORLD.
My brother was murdered that day (FDNY) I was wondering if I could speak to You privately.🙏🏽
O, indeed you can - Please arrange a conversation via email.
My email address: norman@ic911a.org
Judy Wood's theory was introduced as "hostile interference" to the analysis of AE911TRUTH.org building experts who concluded controlled demolition was the chief cause for the explosive collapse of both towers. The explosives are obviously witnessed at the corners of the towers timed to mimic free-fall acceleration. The "dustification" was a product of those mini-nuke explosives combined with the presence of nano-thermite that helped disintegrate the massive structures before they collided with the ground. Judy Wood's theory was introduced to confuse the public as to how it happened while deflecting blame from the obvious Israeli "art student" instigators who were resident in the towers in order to wire the explosives. The distraction plan was made obvious when Judy wood never offered to join the AE911Truth group in order to collaborate with the building experts where her theory could have been put to the test. Instead, she wrote a book that only presented her unproven "theory".
You fail at step 1 - Knowing the difference between a conclusive body of EVIDENCE, and that of a theory or hypothesis.
Video clip: https://rumble.com/v627qr2-911-understanding-what-happened.html
You ad hominem attack toward Dr Wood, reeks of intellectual dishonesty, as was exposed in 2011, when Richard Gage was confronted by more than one attendees at various of his Midwest tour presentations.
Richard Gage confronted 2011 - https://rumble.com/v4frbi3-why-revisit-911.html
Vietnam Veteran, Matthew Naus, who arranged Gage's and David Rey Griffin's tours in 2011 - I suggest you listen to his testimony and his interactions with all the deceivers in the 9/11 truth movement.
Link: https://911revision.substack.com/p/vietnam-veteran-and-911-activism
Then, pertaining to the EVIDENCE, it's time you apply some intellectual humility.
9/11 FACTS that hurt people's feelings
43 FACTS that cannot be explained due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-facts-that-hurt-peoples-feelings
Controlled Demolition Expert Speaks Out!
What we saw on 9/11 was not due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/controlled-demolition-expert-speaks
Myanmar Provides a 9/11 Lesson for Critical Thinkers
Showing you just how easily people are duped, who don't know any better
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/myanmar-provides-a-911-lesson-for
Then, here is a couple more thought experiments for you to do;
Who is the team behind 9/11?
Video: https://rumble.com/v6u8p8z-who-is-the-team-behind-911.html
9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-truth-suppression-timeline
On your regurgitation pertaining to thermite and bombs, herewith some more food for thought on the decade long exposing of the THERMITE LIE...
I highly recommend studying the blog: The Thermite Free Zone
Link: http://911thermitefree.blogspot.com/
You can download the Refutation of Richard Gage’s Game in 2008 AND 2023: https://truthsummit.info/media-files/DrJudyWood-refutation-RichardGage-claims.pdf
Dr Denis Rancourt: 2010 Death Blows to the 9/11 Nano-Thermite Hypothesis
The 9/11 Nano-Thermite Hypothesis and over 15 years of lies
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/denis-rancourt-2010-death-blows-to
Ending the Nano-Thermite 9/11 Hypothesis for the World Trade Center Catastrophe
With basic, easy to verify research - Case closed.
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/ending-the-nano-thermite-911-hypothesis
Then another point - Where has the $7.5 million in donations between 2014 and 2024 gone?
DONATE TODAY for 9/11 Disinformation
Where is the money going?
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/donate-today-for-911-disinformation
Then one last article for you to chew on;
Revisiting 2024 - A most successful 9/11 disinformation year
83 Podcasts - Repetition can make falsehoods seem true
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/revisiting-2024-a-most-successful
There are 3 issues most people have when faced with the truth regarding the events of 9/11
1. Problem solving skills
2. Group Think
3. They just can't handle the implications
Were the towers destroyed by a gravity collapse? The evidence says no.
Were the towers destroyed by explosives? The evidence says no.
Were the towers destroyed by thermite? The evidence says no.
Were the towers destroyed by nukes? The evidence says no.
The answers to these questions can easily be found by studying the evidence.
The problem is NOT a shortage of evidence.
The problem is nobody wants to LOOK at the evidence and think for themselves.
Instead, everyone wants to be TOLD WHAT TO THINK by "experts" in the MSM, alternative media, the scientific community, the government, and the "truth" movement, but these "experts" spend the whole time covering up and muddling up the evidence.
Here is a 20-minute video that most can follow: https://rumble.com/v5jnndx-understanding-the-911-evidence.html
A whole industry has been created - A whole "truth" movement, to have people NOT look at the evidence presented TO COURT in 2007, all whilst they are gaslighting good intentioned truth seekers with stories of remote-controlled planes or drones, CGI TV video fakery, bombs, and thermite for a controlled demolition or even buried or mini nukes.
Making sure people NEVER look at the anomalies with the 9/11 orphans, buildings 3, 4, 5, 6 and the Bankers Trust building, because if people do, they will immediately see the problems with the 9/11 truther narratives that are being SOLD to them.
Good intentioned truth seekers are FUNDING the greater cover-up of the truth of what happened on 9/11.
Have a listen and read the 2007 court filings you’re NOT supposed to know about..
Dr Reynolds' case was for the fraudulent plane impact reports: https://nomoregames.net/2011/06/12/request-for-correction-by-nist-for-its-invalid-wtc-jetliner-animations-and-analyses/
Dr Wood's case was for the destruction at the WTC complex: https://www.doctorjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html
If all of this is just too much effort for you to work through, because you're afraid of admitting to yourself that you've been duped, then leave your email address and we can have a face to face discussion of the EVIDENCE, that cannot be explained by any thermal or kinetic mechanism, on September 11, 2001.
It's time to start being honest with yourself.
Dr Wood 9/11 presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWNzq9OWGmY
Condemnation, without investigation, is the height of ignorance. - Albert Einstein.
A time comes when silence is betrayal. - Martin Luther King
Read Dr Wood’s book: Where did the towers go? https://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com/
A half truth, is still a WHOLE LIE - Patricia Casazza, 9/11 Jersey Girl, December 2025
Weird!
@Harold Saive has pretty good posts. Even aware of Sandy Hook and the virus fraud.
This appears to be the only issue on which he drinks the Camp 2 kool aid.
There are 3 issues most people have when faced with the truth regarding the events of 9/11;
1. Problem solving skills
2. Group Think
3. They just can't handle the implications
9/11 FACTS that hurt people's feelings
43 FACTS that cannot be explained due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-facts-that-hurt-peoples-feelings
You are treating DATA as THEORY - it’s a clear evidential fact that no gravitational collapses occurred in the 7 buildings.
There are several reasons why you may be pushing the controlled opposition PsyOp.
None of them are impressive.
It is vital to keep reality and stories clearly distinguished.
https://open.substack.com/pub/beyondcertainty/p/never-pretend-to-know-what-you-dont
Humbling myself to be okay with not knowing everything is one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. There’s nothing worse than being recognized as suffering from Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.
O, but there are facts and then there are PROVABLE lies, misrepresentations of evidence, obfuscation of truth, COINTELPRO agents and COLD HARD FACTS, when investigating all the narratives around 9/11... Suggested reading...
9/11 FACTS that hurt people's feelings
43 FACTS that cannot be explained due to jet fuel, bombs, thermite or nukes
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-facts-that-hurt-peoples-feelings
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the buildings and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/what-exactly-happened-to-all-7-buildings
This falls under the category of “I know enough to know 9/11 was not a terrorist attack, it’s was a controlled demolition and was a ritual”
I won’t argue or try to prove it to anyone. I’ve done my time in the echo chamber.
Good luck on your quest.
There is no quest, just to expose those who are complicit in the further cover-up of the truth.
A whole industry has been created - A whole "truth" movement, to have people NOT look at the evidence presented TO COURT in 2007, all whilst they are gaslighting good intentioned truth seekers with stories of remote-controlled planes or drones, CGI TV video fakery, bombs, and thermite for a controlled demolition or even buried or mini nukes.
Making sure people NEVER look at the anomalies with the 9/11 orphans, buildings 3, 4, 5, 6 and the Bankers Trust building, because if people do, they will immediately see the problems with the 9/11 truther narratives that are being SOLD to them.
Good intentioned truth seekers are FUNDING the greater cover-up of the truth of what happened on 9/11.
Have a listen and read the 2007 court filings you’re NOT supposed to know about..
Dr Reynolds' case was for the fraudulent plane impact reports: https://nomoregames.net/2011/06/12/request-for-correction-by-nist-for-its-invalid-wtc-jetliner-animations-and-analyses/
Dr Wood's case was for the destruction at the WTC complex: https://www.doctorjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html
9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-truth-suppression-timeline
I 100% agree and it baffled me how people didn’t want to know the truth. Thank you for your dedication to getting the truth out.
Mr Saive - why are you lying? You should know full well of Dr Wood's court case against military industrial contractors. https://www.doctorjudywood.com/wp/court-case-qui-tam/ This was compiled and filed YEARS BEFORE the WDTTG book came out. Why would you come on here and be so ill-informed and disingenuous if you really cared to know what actually happened to the WTC towers? Are you so desperate to protect your ego and the knowledge of the tech. that we KNOW was used on that day?
Or has your brain been so programmed or scrambled that you actually believe what you've said to be correct?
It's all so much of a mystery as to why you would make this comment - and almost as mysterious that I am here wasting my time replying to you.
Not meaning to be anything but positive, it really doesn’t take much logic to conclude that thiss was an inside job!!! God Bess You, Jersey Girls!!!
I hate to agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene, but it appears she was right about “space lasers”. 😳
You’ll find this article rather interesting.
Tesla, the Military Industrial Complex Weapon Technology & 9/11
What did Tesla have available for the MIC in 1943?
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-tesla-and-the-military-industrial